WAV-Files rescued and saved as Alias-files

A forum on data recovery using the professional data recovery software R-STUDIO.
Tonfelix
Posts: 1
Joined: Sun Dec 08, 2019 4:01 pm

WAV-Files rescued and saved as Alias-files

Post by Tonfelix » Sun Dec 08, 2019 4:16 pm

Hallo,

an encrypted APFS-drive just crashed under MacOs High Sierra. Since time is of the essence in this case, I decided to try to recover the files rather than creating an image (which for sure would be the more prudent thing to do, I know). Approx. 25% of the essential files that have not been backuped before could be restored, all WAV-files (actually Broadcast-Wave-files with WAV-ending), but a couple of them have been saved as Alias-files which actually aren't Alias files but rather WAV-files. I can tell because of their sizes (some of them are a couple of Megabytes) and because I can open them with TwistedWave. But I can't open them in ProTools which is my main Digital Workstation.
My question is: why does R-Studio save those files in the wrong format? Is it because they are corrupted? Or is it because they are Broadcast Wave and not simply Windows Wave? And most important: is there a way to tell R-Studio to handle files like that in a different way? Because I cant rename them and change them that way into working and ProTools-digestable Wave-files.

Thanks & cheers!

Felix

Alt
Site Moderator
Posts: 3298
Joined: Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:13 pm
Contact:

Re: WAV-Files rescued and saved as Alias-files

Post by Alt » Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:02 am

Did you recover the problem files as raw (known file types) or from the file system?

mabuse
Posts: 8
Joined: Wed Sep 01, 2021 5:43 am

Re: WAV-Files rescued and saved as Alias-files

Post by mabuse » Wed Sep 01, 2021 5:50 am

Tonfelix wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 4:16 pm
Hallo,

an encrypted APFS-drive just crashed under MacOs High Sierra. Since time is of the essence in this case, I decided to try to recover the files rather than creating an image (which for sure would be the more prudent thing to do, I know). Approx. 25% of the essential files that have not been backuped before could be restored, all WAV-files (actually Broadcast-Wave-files with WAV-ending), but a couple of them have been saved as Alias-files which actually aren't Alias files but rather WAV-files. I can tell because of their sizes (some of them are a couple of Megabytes) and because I can open them with TwistedWave. But I can't open them in ProTools which is my main Digital Workstation.
My question is: why does R-Studio save those files in the wrong format? Is it because they are corrupted? Or is it because they are Broadcast Wave and not simply Windows Wave? And most important: is there a way to tell R-Studio to handle files like that in a different way? Because I cant rename them and change them that way into working and ProTools-digestable Wave-files.

Thanks & cheers!

Felix
hey Felix,

I just experienced the same thing - some files were recovered as alias instead of wav files.
did you found a solution for your problem?

thanks and best, johannes

mabuse
Posts: 8
Joined: Wed Sep 01, 2021 5:43 am

Re: WAV-Files rescued and saved as Alias-files

Post by mabuse » Wed Sep 01, 2021 5:52 am

Alt wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:02 am
Did you recover the problem files as raw (known file types) or from the file system?
btw I used the file system... these wave/alias files where not listed in the raw files directory.

edit:
i also realized that some recovered wav files simply didn't show up in the output folder. strange thing is that I can find them when I search by their name via the osx finder. is there a specific reason why this is happening?

Alt
Site Moderator
Posts: 3298
Joined: Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:13 pm
Contact:

Re: WAV-Files rescued and saved as Alias-files

Post by Alt » Wed Sep 01, 2021 12:48 pm

mabuse wrote:
Wed Sep 01, 2021 5:52 am
i also realized that some recovered wav files simply didn't show up in the output folder. strange thing is that I can find them when I search by their name via the osx finder. is there a specific reason why this is happening?
Is your disk an SSD device?

mabuse
Posts: 8
Joined: Wed Sep 01, 2021 5:43 am

Re: WAV-Files rescued and saved as Alias-files

Post by mabuse » Wed Sep 01, 2021 1:45 pm

Yes it is.
And apfs filesystem btw.

Alt
Site Moderator
Posts: 3298
Joined: Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:13 pm
Contact:

Re: WAV-Files rescued and saved as Alias-files

Post by Alt » Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:13 pm

mabuse wrote:
Wed Sep 01, 2021 1:45 pm
Yes it is.
And apfs filesystem btw.
This article explains what is a possible cause of this problem: File Recovery Specifics for SSD and Other Devices Supporting the TRIM/UNMAP command.

mabuse
Posts: 8
Joined: Wed Sep 01, 2021 5:43 am

Re: WAV-Files rescued and saved as Alias-files

Post by mabuse » Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:16 pm

Thanks for pointing out.

So because of using a ssd, after scanning the recovered hd partition is colored black (not green) and all folders and files have red cross on it? I Will take a look on the trimming and see if it’s possible with ssd and if it changes anything.

For now i tried scanning with a) all filesystems selected and b) only with apfs selected - as far as i can see with the same outcome. In both cases i get missing/invisible files and aliases instead of wav files. After i recovered a bunch of folders that include subfolders i realized that some subfolders where missing too. So it seems not to be (wav) file but also folder related.
Hmm…
Anything else i could try?

Alt
Site Moderator
Posts: 3298
Joined: Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:13 pm
Contact:

Re: WAV-Files rescued and saved as Alias-files

Post by Alt » Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:57 pm

mabuse wrote:
Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:16 pm
So because of using a ssd, after scanning the recovered hd partition is colored black (not green) and all folders and files have red cross on it? I Will take a look on the trimming and see if it’s possible with ssd and if it changes anything.
Deep black means the existing partition.

mabuse
Posts: 8
Joined: Wed Sep 01, 2021 5:43 am

Re: WAV-Files rescued and saved as Alias-files

Post by mabuse » Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:46 pm

good to know.

I would at least try to scan my ssd with trim disabled.
I currently have the ssd (that I want to recover from) connected via an sata adapter to an other mac.
but iam not sure how to address that drive and disable the trim settings via the terminal.

Post Reply